Do you think DBA is a desirable job?

  • Frank - I'm working in a half-DBA (apps), half-documentation writer position. It was all documentation all the time when I started, but after a month I noticed that they were having problems with their databases.

    I walked over to the head guy and said, "You do know that I'm a SQL DBA, right?" "No. I just glanced at your resume." "I've been a DBA for four years, or so. I'll be happy to help."

    After a year (almost) my duties are split between the two. I would much rather be a full-time DBA, but I'll take what I can get.

    If you don't see me on here, it's because I've been working the other position.

    Dr. Peter Venkman: Generally you don't see that kind of behavior in a major appliance.

    Patrick

    Quand on parle du loup, on en voit la queue

  • Hi there,

    actually I did have some kind of interview with my prospective boss on late friday afternoon.

    It was really fun!

    We were joking about workers' council work, drinking cappuccino and talking about our IT infrastructure and actual projects.

    Q: I love to become our full-time DBA.

    A: OK, good to know there are internal ressources for this!

    Q: I ready to prove my knowledge in an technical interview.

    A: Sure you are. Do you think this is necessary?

    As I've mentioned above, he knows me and has followed several discussions I've had with our developers on database issues. So far, this has been satisfying.

    The only problem is, that this is not yet an officially announced position, and the IT boss #1 has a strong believe, that he can run the whole IT admin stuff for some 500 people and upcoming foreign branches with only two full-time network admins, who can also do DB administration by the way . We were both LoL on this.

    I'm considering talking to my CFO on this. He is also responsible for the IT department.

    Cheers,

    Frank

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Frank,

    Same here. They have a multitude of projects and no App DBA. So I've been doing the job for the past nine months, while being paid as a tech writer. That's better than sitting at home.

    We have several developers who believe they are DBAs and create some contorted databases with only the default sizes and datatypes. If I see one more State column set to varchar(50)....

    Dr. Peter Venkman: Generally you don't see that kind of behavior in a major appliance.

    Patrick

    Quand on parle du loup, on en voit la queue

  • hi Patrick,

    quote:


    Same here. They have a multitude of projects and no App DBA. So I've been doing the job for the past nine months, while being paid as a tech writer. That's better than sitting at home.


    you know, what REALLY funny is, is the fact that they are some ~120 days behind according to their own project plans, because of this human resources bottle-neck.

    But what it's all about are the personell costs!

    Hiring a new worker means accounting for higher personell costs. So, what they do is hire some external consultant, that I believe will cost multiple times as a salaried ?!? employee, but the external you can show under material costs, so your personell cost planning can remain unchanged and stable.

    Isn't this paradox ??

    Cheers,

    Frank

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • quote:


    the IT boss #1 has a strong believe, that he can run the whole IT admin stuff for some 500 people and upcoming foreign branches with only two full-time network admins, who can also do DB administration by the way


    quote:


    They have a multitude of projects and no App DBA


    This was in Chapter 6 of 'Management for Dummies', How to Ruin your Project and Disillusion your Customers, Whilst Convincing the Board your Saving Money'.

    *I didn't do anything it just got complicated*


    "I didn't do anything it just got complicated" - M Edwards

  • Hi Ritch,

    quote:


    This was in Chapter 6 of 'Management for Dummies', How to Ruin your Project and Disillusion your Customers, Whilst Convincing the Board your Saving Money'.


    we have no customers, only insured persons.

    They have the dream that we care about them

    BTW, you've mentioned earlier

    quote:


    It's 'Acquaintance' by the way


    now I need a lesson in english

    I can say:

    He is my friend. Okay?

    And I can say:

    He is a stranger. Right?

    So, how do I say:

    He is my acquaitant (acquaitance ???)

    Cheers,

    Frank

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • quote:


    He is my acquaitant (acquaitance ???)


    Spot on, you missed a 'n' tho, "acquaintance".

    Cheers

    *I didn't do anything it just got complicated*


    "I didn't do anything it just got complicated" - M Edwards

  • By jingoes Frank, I thought you already WERE a DBA.

    I can't see you having any problems with a technical interview.

    You probably only need to work on answers to the non-technical questions... eg. why do you want a change? How will you go introducing DB policies and standards for developers having just come from that arena; etc.

    Good luck, not that I think you need it.

    Cheers,

    - Mark


    Cheers,
    - Mark

  • Hi Mark,

    quote:


    By jingoes Frank, I thought you already WERE a DBA.


    you are really strange. Flaming me for my animated gif in my profile, but not reading this rest...

    Ok, I've changed my picture just for you till the final one's ready.

    quote:


    I can't see you having any problems with a technical interview.


    thanks for this kind comment!

    quote:


    You probably only need to work on answers to the non-technical questions... eg. why do you want a change? How will you go introducing DB policies and standards for developers having just come from that arena; etc.


    I would certainly be worried about those question when applying at a totally new company.

    quote:


    Good luck, not that I think you need it.


    actually things are on their way.

    My prospective boss will give its ok, now I only need to know how to convince my current boss, my CFO and and the IT boss #1 that I can serve my company's interests more when they let me act as DBA.

    Still working on a strategy for this and waiting for the right moment.

    Cheers,

    Frank

    Edited by - a5xo3z1 on 08/05/2003 06:53:13 AM

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Frank,

    Your picture does not come up for me.

  • Hi sqlinsite,

    quote:


    Your picture does not come up for me.


    sorry, I was hoping mccork were first to have a look at!

    It fully intentional !!

    Have a look at the URL location in the lower left corner

    I'm working under pressure to get a real picture in as soon as possible, I promise

    Cheers,

    Frank

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Frank,

    I clicked on it and got "Page Cannot Be Displayed". The URL is http://blame.it.on.mccork/

    All the best,

    Dale

  • Dale,

    quote:


    I clicked on it and got "Page Cannot Be Displayed". The URL is http://blame.it.on.mccork/


    I must clear up things a little bit.

    I had an nice, amusing offline mail conversation about this and that and about his photo and my missing one. He was joking, I posted a thread that the community members should place photos in their profile, while in mine was an animated gif. You know which one . So I thought, it would be only fair to remove my gif until the final one's available. And as a friendly sidekick to mccork I've put this URL in there.

    I'm sorry it this has led to confusion and remove it instantly

    Cheers,

    Frank

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    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Ok, Frank.

    "Blame.it.on.mccork" is then most appropriate!

    All the best,

    Dale

  • Frank,

    You rarely say "This is an acquaintance." when introducing someone. It means that you don't know them and have only met them a few times at most.

    An acquaintance is someone you vaguely know and barely recognize.

    Dr. Peter Venkman: Generally you don't see that kind of behavior in a major appliance.

    Patrick

    Quand on parle du loup, on en voit la queue

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