How slow does MSDE go if you exceed the concurrent limit?

  • Hi - I am running MSDE on our server for the moment. I do see the "This SQL Server has been optimized for 8 concurrent queries. This limit has been exceeded by 1 queries and performance may be adversely affected." many times in my logs.

    Is there anywhere that documents the delays introduced by MSDE if the 5 query limited is exceeded? Is it an exponential scale - or how else is it calculated? I'm trying to find out if users (who may be causal browsers, that I may never have contact with), are experiencing a short delay (10ths of seconds), or if the delays are long enough for them to think the site is broken.

    Thanks for any help, Mark

  • Hi,

    If you look in BOL under:

    SQL Server Architecture

     Relational Database Engine Architecture

      Server Scalability

       The SQL Server 2000 Workload Governor

    You will find a fairly good explanation of when the governor kicks in and how it slows things down.  I did try to respond to another question of yours but this darn site 'nuked' my reply when I went to post it.

    Does your web app hit the db straight from asp of do you use com/com+?

     

    Ian Dundas
    Senior IT Analyst - Database
    Manitoba Public Insurance Corp.

  • Hi Ian - thank you I'll search in there.

    The site is .Net - so all of the hits are directly from the compiled dll.

    Kind regards, Mark

  • Well, if you are already using a DLL, you can change the architecture slightly to use a COM+ component to access the db.  If you set the initial number of pooled objects high enough you could pretty much eliminate all the login and logout operations that the MSDE would see, assuming of course the objects are coded to keep the db connections open.  If most of your accesses are of a  login/do a single query/logout nature, you may see a two-thirds reduction and may not run into the governor issues.

    Well, it might buy you a little more time before having to upgrade to Standard edition anyways.

     

    Ian Dundas
    Senior IT Analyst - Database
    Manitoba Public Insurance Corp.

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